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Schimb de apa de 50% o sa fac si eu la mine, dar am de schimabt doar 20 litri, nu 100.

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Blue14 wrote:Schimb de apa de 50% o sa fac si eu la mine, dar am de schimabt doar 20 litri, nu 100.

La sistem de 280 de litri ia ghici cata apa car io?


koala wrote:Fosfatii aia se elibereaza din piatra... si, o sa mai dureze o perioada.
Trebuie sa continui cu antiphosul (PhosGuard, RowaPhos, orice)...

Ca idee generala, tine minte 3 cuvinte: Pla, paru', ospataru ... pardon, am vrut sa zic: Solution is dilution!

- schimba 50% din apa, si o sa injumatatesti si nitratii/fosfatii.
- materialul antiphos lucreaza "mai cu spor", daca nivelul PO4 e decent.


La cate zile fac schimbu' asta? Sau ie in functie de ce masor in bazin?

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Grea intrebare i-ai pus lu' ala micu' ...

Schimbul de apa tre' facut atunci cand vezi ca testele de apa o iau "la vale"... si, cand solutiile tehnice (reactoare, biopellete, antiphos, plm) nu dau rezultate rapide.

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140 litri!

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Blue14 wrote:140 litri!

Gresit!

Te las sa te prinzi, singur, de ce...

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De ce nu bagi si tu alcool in bazin ?

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Alcoolul nu face fata la po4!!!!

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N-am bagat panaacu, speram sa nu am nevoie, am o palinca de pruna... mmmmmm. prefer sa o bag in mine
vedem ce se desfasoara dupa schimbul asta de apa.

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Blue14 wrote:Alcoolul nu face fata la po4!!!!


N-are nici o treaba ce zici tu acolo. se dozeaza vodka pentru a scadea atat nitratii cat si fosfatii numai ca vodka reduce nitratiii cu o rata de 16NO3 la 1PO4 adica daca ai nitrati mici si ajungi la 0 cu ei vodka (sau orice alt alcool) nu mai reduce fosfatii.

L.E. Si inca n-ai raspuns corect la intrebarea cu cata apa car eu.

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Eu as face cea mai combinatie combinatoare, adica un simplu reactor cu nisip sa faci boost la nitrati si dozaj de vodka

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darthradu wrote:Eu as face cea mai combinatie combinatoare, adica un simplu reactor cu nisip sa faci boost la nitrati si dozaj de vodka


Nu cred ca e cazul momentan, si mi-e ca destabilozaz sistemul, momentan am facut 50% schimb de apa si am schimbat phosgurad-ul cu rowaphos si am scazutfosfatii la 0.012 ppm.
Plm, vedem cum evolueaza, daca nu vrea o sa trec la alcooale tari, un gat eu, un gat bazinul.

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Teste... teste...

KH = 7.7
PH= 8.1 (se terminase scrubberul, dar pentru ca nu are voie sa fie la vedere/usor accesibil n-am vazut)
Ca= 460
Mg = 1390
NO3 = 2.5 sau asa il vad eu

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m4/Bogdan_Sbircea/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0148_zpsuxwr50du.jpg

PO4 = 0.012 masurat pe hanna phosphorus ULR

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Apropos de hanna, de ce dracu la prima masurare am reading diferit decat la urmatoarele 3 pe aceeasi fiola de test?
Are hanna un timp de asteptare pana sa faci masurarea, in afara de ala al ei de 3 minute?

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- Bah, betivilor, alcoalele ie numa' pentru nitrati... fosfatii se "curata" cu antiphos, asta daca vrei sa fie treaba, treaba!
- Cand ajungi cu parametrii apei in cote normale, otetul (votca, zaharul, plm) ofera hrana bacteriilor si mentin ciclul constant. E un fel de "biopelleta saracului", daca vreti.
- La bazinele mici/medii, schimburile de apa sunt solutia cea mai eficienta... pentru ca poti sa injumatatesti "otrava" din apa, imediat, cu un schimb de 50%.
- Problema se complica la bazinele mari... eu nu am cum sa schimb atata apa, asa ca ma "tiganesc" cum pot... mai un NOPOX "de casa", mai un PhosGuard la sticla, satisfactii d-astea romanesti. Daca as fi stat la casa (sau, undeva un' sa pot tine un "mare butoi" la indemana), as fi facut schimburi de apa.


Later edit: Hanna Montana are prostul obicei sa indice diferit... masuratori diferite = rezultate diferite.
Daca rezultatele sunt "tot pe-acolo", e in regula. Probabil e vorba de reactiv/ambalare/cantarire.

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Bah in plm, pana la urma cata apa cari ?

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Este foarte simplu:

- arunci 100 de litri de apa sarata, sa zicem.
- tre' sa pui, in loc, doar 96.5 litri apa... si 3.5 kile de sare.

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Adica la schimb de 140 scot 140 si aduc 136 deci vreo 276 de litri. Deaia ma dor salele.

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Yeap, chiar asa!

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Cred ca termin in seara asta lumina la sump/refugiu. Cine isi face pomana cu um pumn de Chaetomorpha, platesc/cinstesc/dau de baut.

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saptamanii, daca nu poti luni ramane in weekendul viitor sau dupa.

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