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De cand faci schimbul de apa? KH-ul la apa osmozata cat il ai?

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schimbul il fac de 2 sapt., gh-0, kh-0, apa de inceput din acvariu a fost apa de robinet, gh-10, kh-8, la cel de la serviciu am gh-0-1, kh-1.

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Si de cand faci schimbul regulat la 3-4 zile cu apa osmozata?

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cam de 2 saptamani.
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Adica pina acum ai facut 4 schimburi. Apa de la robinet la tine are KH 8, iar acum ai in acvariu KH 4.
Dupa inca vreo 3-4 schimburi o sa ai KH 0 si in acvariu. Si atunci vei avea mari probleme, vei avea
scaderi si fluctuatii masive de pH. Ca sa nu ai probleme, ai 2 solutii: adaugi KH buffer la apa osmozata
pentru un KH pe care vrei sa il ai, sa zicem 2-3, asta e varianta mai scumpa, sau mixezi apa osmozata
cu apa de la robinet statuta in proportie de 50-50%. Daca mergi pe prima varianta e bine sa adaugi si
ceva minerale, fara ele pestii vor avea probleme destul de repede. Apa osmozata este foarte buna,
dar nu mai contine aproape nimic. In varianta in care mixezi apa nu mai ai nevoie de aditie de minerale.

Si crede-ma ca stiu ce vorbesc, eu la un acvariu de 400 litri net schimb 50 de litri zilnic cu apa osmozata.
Si fac aditie de minerale si KH buffer zilnic. Poti sa vezi acvariul despre care vorbesc in linkul din
semnatura mea.

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la cel de la serviciu, pe care il am din luna 02.2011, fac schimbul cu apa osmozata fara nici o aditie de minerale, din luna iulie de cand am luat osmozorul si nu am nici o problema cu nici un peste, doar cu algele de 2 ori din luna februarie, din cate stiu eu pestele ia din apa doar oxigenul, vit., mineralele le ia din hrana.

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Ok, tu stii mai bine, eu doar ti-am spus cu ce m-am confruntat eu.
Aditia de minerale eu o fac in primul rand pentru Discusi, dar nu cred
ca strica nici celorlalti pesti.

In orice caz, ai grija cu KH-ul, daca ajungi la KH 0 in acvariu o sa ai probleme,
la un KH 0 poate oricand sa iti scada brusc pH-ul si sa iti moara toti pestii.
Mai citeste pe forum si ai sa vezi ca am dreptate.

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cocolino wrote:din cate stiu eu pestele ia din apa doar oxigenul, vit., mineralele le ia din hrana.


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din cate am citit, chestia aia este mai mult pentru plante, decat pentru pesti, discutam despre 2 lucruri diferite: remineralizare este una (minerale), vitaminele sunt altceva, sol. aia este pt. plantele din acvariile de discusi, care trebuie sa fie o apa pura (lipsa minerale pt. plante), contine vit. B, este pt protectia mucusului de pe piele.

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cocolino wrote:din cate stiu eu pestele ia din apa doar oxigenul, vit., mineralele le ia din hrana.


O mare parte da, din hrana, dar ai spus... si de data aceasta am boldat, ca vitaminele se asimileaza doar din hrana...pe cand cei ce la dennerle le administreaza sub forma lichida...sa nu crezi ca nu e asimilata de catre pesti in vederea protejarii mucusului, ca si pe mine cand ma doare capul, inghit o pastila si durerea trece, nu mi-o lipesc pe cap in speranta vindecarii, corect?

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A1 Daily Discus
Daily fertilizer for plants in aquariums, discus

Discus aquariums need special care
In discus aquaria prevail very special circumstances, which make the food situation of the plant considerably, especially the permanently high water temperature and a most intense filtering. Some nutrients, which are introduced by the fish feed, are present in excess, while others lack it. Growth disturbances are inevitable.
With DENNERLE A1 Daily Discus Discus Aquariums for the typical nutrient gaps specifically. The daily fertilizer provides all the plants in discus aquaria with exactly the nutrients and building materials that are used daily.
sensitive nutrients are temperature stabilized so that they remain permanently at high temperatures of 28-30 ° C long stable.

Cum am sustinut mai devreme, A1 daily discus este un ingrasamant pentru plantele din acvariile de discusi care au conditii speciale de crestere, intra pe site-ul dennerle.de si citeste prospectul, care l-am copiat mai sus.
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Aveti mai jos un articol exact pe ceea ce discutam noi acum. Daca cel care a scris articolul minte atunci mint si eu.
Inclin sa ii dau dreptate, iar povestea cu apa din acvariu este mult mai complicata decat ce am scris noi in acest
topic. Lectura placuta

http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumKH.html

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LE Si daca te uiti la topicul in care prezint acvariul meu ai sa vezi un link unde gasesti online toti parametri
din acvariul meu, pH, temperatura, Conductivitate, Redox (valorile sint afisate online). Redoxul si Conductivitatea
sint 2 parametri care iti dau mai multe detalii despre biotopul pe care il ai in acvariu.

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Revolutionary water and tissue soluble vitamin formula designed for aquatic animals. Vita-Chem provides vitamins in a biologically usable form so your aquarium inhabitants receive their full nutritional benefits for optimum health. Brings out intense natural colors of fish, increases growth, restores natural vitality of fish, helps increase resistance to disease, and more. Vita-Chem is also great for fin regeneration and preventing lateral line disease. It's the most effective concentrated environmental vitamin offered to the aquarium trade. Contains over 30 naturally occurring extracts bonded with amino acids and provides more active Vitamin C than any other fish vitamin. Use directly in the aquarium or add several drops to fortify dry, frozen, or live foods. Use 2 drops per gallon once a week and several drops on food five times a week.

Benefits of Vita-Chem:
Reverses and cures lateral line disease
Brings out intense natural colors of fish
Great for fin regeneration
Increases growth
Restores natural vitality of fish
Restores appetite
Helps increase resistance to disease
Stimulates natural mating and breeding instincts in aquariums

FAQ: am dat copy-paste la o singura intrebare:

Q. Will my invertebrates and plants benefit from the vitamins?

A. Yes. Any living organism in the aquarium will benefit from the vitamins, since they are tissue soluble.


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tarca.paul wrote:Revolutionary water and tissue soluble vitamin formula designed for aquatic animals. Vita-Chem provides vitamins in a biologically usable form so your aquarium inhabitants receive their full nutritional benefits for optimum health. Brings out intense natural colors of fish, increases growth, restores natural vitality of fish, helps increase resistance to disease, and more. Vita-Chem is also great for fin regeneration and preventing lateral line disease. It's the most effective concentrated environmental vitamin offered to the aquarium trade. Contains over 30 naturally occurring extracts bonded with amino acids and provides more active Vitamin C than any other fish vitamin. Use directly in the aquarium or add several drops to fortify dry, frozen, or live foods. Use 2 drops per gallon once a week and several drops on food five times a week.

Benefits of Vita-Chem:
Reverses and cures lateral line disease
Brings out intense natural colors of fish
Great for fin regeneration
Increases growth
Restores natural vitality of fish
Restores appetite
Helps increase resistance to disease
Stimulates natural mating and breeding instincts in aquariums

FAQ: am dat copy-paste la o singura intrebare:

Q. Will my invertebrates and plants benefit from the vitamins?

A. Yes. Any living organism in the aquarium will benefit from the vitamins, since they are tissue soluble.



O formula revolutionara de vitamina solubila in apa si in tesuturi conceputa pentru animale acvatice. Vita-Chem ofera vitamine intr-o forma utilizabila biologic astfel incat locuitorii acvariului dumneavoastra vor primi beneficii nutritionale optime pentru o sanatate buna. Pestii capata culori naturale intense, cresc mai mult, redevin vioi, rezistenti la boli, etc. Vita-Chem este grozava pentru regenerarea aripioarelor, si preventia bolii de linie laterala . Este cea mai eficienta vitamina concentrata de mediu oferita de comertul pentru acvarii. Contine peste 30 de extracte din mediul natural impreuna cu amino-acizi si ofera mai multa vitamina C activa decat alte vitamine pentru pesti. Puneti direct in acvariu sau adaugati cativa stropi pentru a fortifica mancarea uscata, congelata sau vie. Folositi 2 picaturi pe galon (aprox 4 l) odata pe saptamana si cativa stropi pe mancare de 5 ori pe saptamana.

Beneficii ale Vita-Chem :
Amelioreaza si vindeca boala de linie laterala
Reface culoarea naturala a pestilor
Regenereaza aripioarele
Accelereaza cresterea
Reface vitalitatea naturala a pestilor
Reface apetitul
Stimuleaza imperecherea naturala si instinctele de inmultire in acvarii

FAQ: Nevertebratele mele si plantlele vor bénéficia de vitamine ?
Da. Orice organism din acvariu va bénéficia de vitamine, deoarece sunt solubile in tesuturi.

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Multumim de traducere Antonio

Intrebarea este daca folosim asemenea produse sau nu, este posibil sa fie ok apa de osmoza pentru pesti
fara adaosuri suplimentare? Ca pina la urma nu conteaza cum se numesc si cine le produce, dar sint indispensabile?

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un alt aranjament in acvariu, bineinteles ca nu puate concura cu acvariul lui kirucd, dar la cei 400 ron ca ma dus?.
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Ba chiar poate concura, dar trebuie sa pui mai multe plante. Si sa mai treaca ceva timp sa creasca plantele.
Si nu banii conteaza, conteaza simtul artistic si pasiunea. Mie mi se pare ca esti pe drumul cel bun, dar trebuie
sa ai rabdare.

Ape limpezi si sa auzim de bine.
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ceva nu merge la cel de acasa, luminasau fertilizarea cu co2, fata de cel de la serviciu in care cresc plantele vazand cu ochii, diferenta de 6 zile.
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Salutare! Oricat mi-as da silinta nu-mi iese, nu prea am simtul esteticii, astept sugestii pt. aranjarea plantelor, multumesc mult.
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Sugestiile cele mai simple sint asa:
1. Grupeaza plantele din aceeasi specie, nu imparti cite un fir prin tot acvariu ....... fa una sau doua tufe dintr-o specie.
2. Rupe firele astfel incit sa nu ajunga la suprafata, cele mai inalte tufe trebuie sa se opreasca la citiva cm sub nivelu' apei.

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