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Buna tuturor!
Ieri am schimbat 10% din apa acvariului iar dupa ce am terminat am uitat sa repornesc filtrul extern.
Credeti ca in 24 de ore bacteriile nitrificatoare au murit?
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Dar bacteriile din petshop-uri nu mor?Pe alt forum am vazut ca bacteriile nu mor ci doar intra intr-o stare de hibernare.Este adevarat?
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De ce ai oprit filtrul doar pentru un schimb de apa?
Eu nu cred ca e posibil in 24 de ore sa se intample asta, parere personala.
2-3 zile, poate.
LE: Bacteriile nitrificatoare nu hiberneaza. Alea de la pet-shop nu sunt bacterii nitrificatoare.
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L-am oprit pentru ca am scos acel spraybar din apa ca sa il curat.
L.E  aca nu sunt bacterii nitrificatoare atunci ce sunt?
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Bacterii heterotrofe si un cocktail de enzime. Scrie undeva pe prospect ca produsul contine bacterii nitrificatoare? Ca eu am citit prospectul de la Tetra Bactozym si JBL FilterStart si n-am vazut sa zica asta in clar. Spun doar ca ajuta sau scurteaza procesul de ciclare. Mai si mint in unele cazuri si zic ca poti pune pestii dupa 1-2 zile.
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Da, se pare ca Tetra Bactozym contine si bacterii autotrofe nitrificatoare.
Citeste articolul de mai jos:
http://www.oscarfish.com/article-home/water/71-autotrophic-bacteria-manifesto.html
Parerea mea este ca bacteriile autotrofe, cele benefice nitrificarii au murit in acel filtru dupa 24 de ore.
O zi buna,
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Ah, nu stiu despre Nitrivec nimic. Bafta cu pestii.
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Parerea mea este ca bacteriile autotrofe, cele benefice nitrificarii au murit in acel filtru dupa 24 de ore.
Asta inseamna ca trebue sa o iau de la capat cu ciclarea?
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Greseala mea, e vorba de Tetra Safe-start, nu Bactozym.
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Scoate filtrul ala si miroase-l... iti vei da seama cu siguranta daca s-a deciclat, pentru ca o sa puta ingrozitor  ... si, data viitoare, nu mai opri filtrul!
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L-am desfacut si nu miroase deloc  deci nu e deciclat.
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Eu ma mir cum niste bacterii nu pot supravietui 24 de ore in mediul lor in care au crescut dar stau cu lunile in sticlute pe raft
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Pai problema este ca bacteriile autotrofe care se ocupa de nitrificare se divid odata la 12-20 de ore,
in conditii propice. In conditiile in care se opreste filtrul pentru o perioada atat de mare bactariile
autotrofe nu se vor mai divide, din lipsa de oxigen la un moment dat, moment in care bacteriile
heterotrofe care sint facultativ anaerobe si se divid odata la 20 de minute vor ocupa locul celor
autotrofe. Asta este o deductie si nu pot spune cu siguranta ca este asa, asta e parerea mea si o
incercare de explicatie.
Eu raman la parerea ca filtrul este cel putin partial deciclat.
O seara placuta,
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Ok,mersi pentru raspunsurile referitoare la deciclare.
Ca sa nu mai deschid alt topic o sa va mai pun o intrebare  .
Ca material biologic,din experienta voastra care credeti ca e mai eficient:
Sera Siporax sau Eheim substrat pro.
P.S:Sper ca nu am devenit stresant  .
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Ca sa-mi dau si eu opinia fata de deciclare, nu e nici o problema daca filtrul e matur ... da, sunt grafice pe net cat rezista bacteriile, e drept ca unele mor, dar ideea este ca odata repornit - cat timp e umed sa zic, nu va mai dura 3 saptamani ca atunci cand dai drumul la acvariu.
Mi s-a intamplat si mie sa ramana nepornite, absolut nici o problema..
SubstratPro e bun  (asta am in filtrele care au ramas oprite 24 de ore)
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Substrat Pro este si parerea mea.
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Mersi,am sa tin cont de parerea voastra.
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Referitor la bacteriile din sticlute, probabil sunt intr-o stare dormanta, sau sporulata. Ele nu au activitate, nu se divid, nu consuma, nu excreta. Posibil ca si solutia in care stau in sticluta respectiva sa le inhibe (e o varianta).
Puse in acvariu, intalnesc conditiile propice (printre care nutrienti) si ies din acea stare, proliferand.
Ca si bacteriile de ne mai deranjeaza pe noi din cand in cand. Stau linisite prin praf/pamant/diverse si incep sa-si faca de cap cand ajung la noi.
Nu sunt bacteriolog, doar ceva amintiri de pe la facultate.
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