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Chiar daca in lada furtunul formeaza o spirala de 10 - 15 - 20 metrii ? si este un furtun cu perete subtire ?
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cauta pe youtube : diy aquarium chiller
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bigman wrote:eu cu matematica si fizica nu prea am fost prieteni
Nu-i bai, in cazu' asta ai incredere in mine, am fost prieten la catarama si cu matematica si cu fizica  .
bigman wrote:Astfel ca in nemernicia mea de incapatanat, intreb ; adica vrei sa spui ca daca intr-un bazin cu temperatura initiala a apei de 35 grade, introduc in mod constant apa la temperatura de 18 - 20 -22 grade intr-un regim de 500 - 700 - 1000 litrii/ora, temperatura initiala din bazin va ramane neschimbata sau se va modifica nesemnificativ ???
Ai dreptate, daca ai baga in acvariu apa la 20 C cu un debit de 1.000 l/ora ai obtine scaderea de temperatura. Aici nu gresesti.
Greseala ta e ca supraestimezi puterea frigiderului de 85 W. El NU va putea aduce la temperatura de 20 C apa la debitu' de care vorbesti. Va functiona in continuu si NU va reusi. Daca in frigider intra apa la 35 C NU va iesi la 20 C oricite spirale ai face si din orice material ar fi. Estimez ca mai mult de 1-2 C nu poti obtine.
Practic spirala va incalzi frigideru'.
E ca si cum ai incerca sa incalzesti apa cu debit mare la o luminare.
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Mda, inteleg acum ce spui si imi dau seama ca are si logica oarecum, dar parca tot nu as fi de acord 100%. In sensul ca, ma gandesc ca la inceput mergand in continuu, la un moment dat apa n-ar mai intra in spirala tot cu 35 grade. Ar scadea si ea macar cu 0,5 - 1 grad la un numar de ore si deci in consecinta si la iesire va fi din ce in ce mai rece, nu crezi !? Chit ca la inceput pun in lada si niste gheata ajutatoare ! Parca are un pic de logica ce spun, mai ales ca si speranta moare ultima !?!
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Altfel, daca e chiar asa de stricta si clara povestea, cum spui tu, inseamna ca eu vara trebuie sa desfintez acvariul !
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bigman wrote:Altfel, daca e chiar asa de stricta si clara povestea, cum spui tu, inseamna ca eu vara trebuie sa desfintez acvariul !
"Ti-am zis eu...." =))
Ps: ca tot o tii tu cu LADA si Peltier.... am o "intrebare intrebatoare", e simpla, de logica: Daca (prin absurd) elementul tau ventilat, fugarit, vrajit, blagoslovit... reuseste sa iti scada apa de la 35 la 25 de grade..... CALDURA DEGAJATA DE ELEMENTUL PELTIER (care absoarbe caldura din interior si o DEGAJA SPRE EXTERIOR).... deci: CALDURA ACEEA UNDE SE DUCE? Nu imi spune ca IN CAMERA!!!!
Iar.... prin absurd intreb: daca o camera care "avea" 35 de grade.... primeste caldura suplimentara.... de 2-3-5-10 grade.... intr-un interval de timp X.... CALDURA IN CAMERA TA, CU CAT CRESTE?
Acum in sens invers: daca aerul in camera e 37 de grade.... apa din acvariu 25.... cat dureaza ca "cele 2 medii" sa isi echilibreze temperatura prin transferul realizat datorita sticlei acvariului?????
De ce iti povestesc toate astea? Ptr ca eu am discusi.... care trebuiesc tinuti la 30 de grade si m-am confruntat si "studiat/experimentat" treaba cu transferul de calduri & shit:
- vara cand mi se taie caldura la calorifere si am 17-20 de grade in casa... platesc curent de ma satur peste 3000 Kw lunar (noroc ca am vara scurta)
- Iarna cand "revine caldura" in calorifere si am in casa 28 de grade: am consum doar 500Kw lunar.... iar incalzitoarele se mai si inchid (semn ca au de incalzit doar 2 grade diferenta)
Acvariile sunt izolate cu polistiren pe toate partile in afara de frontal... asa ca nu este nimic schimbat intre vara si iarna.
De aceea iti spun ca nu trebuie neglijat INCA UN FACTOR IN PLUS: TEMPERATURA AMBIENTALA!
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Discusii!
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Am inteles !
Deci scot apa si bag soparle !
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PS :
Faye, scuze dar inca nu mi-a crescut mustata !
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Am rabdare.  O sa-ti creasca si barba pana reusesti sa racesti apa aia.
Tot cu berea o rezolvi.
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Nu stiu despre ce apa vorbesti, da berea ... o rezolv sigur !
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Apa ... aia de pe televizor.
Din ciclul "drobul de sare". Te-ai gandit cam cum ar fi daca incepe acvariul sa planga, in timp ce televizorul functioneaza?
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Aaaaa, aia ?
Stai cuminte ca n-ar fi prima data !
Sti ce misto e sa te ia asa de pe la talpi cu ... 220v ?
... dar face bine la reumatism !
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bigman wrote:Va rog nu incepeti sa-mi spuneti sa mut acvariul sau televizorul ca nu exista nici una din variantele astea.
Muta acvariul!
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Pai nu mai e cazul, n-auzi ca scot apa si bag soparle !?
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Las-o-n colo de acvaristica, ca vad c-a devenit mai exacta decat stiintele exacte. Iar eu sunt un visator, nu m-am inteles niciodata cu stiintele exacte !
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