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lukitza wrote:Sump-ul cat de mare va fi? Folosesti vechiul bazin?
Pentru sump voi folosi sticla de la vechiul bazin de filtrare. L-am taiat, curatat si-l voi modifica putin.
La momentul lipirii si cand ma mai clarific si eu cu ce vreau sa fac voi da detalii...
Dimensiunea lui va fi 1500(L) x 500(l) x 500(h), dimensiuni in [mm]. Volum brut 375 litri.
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Bah, sunt cracanat, pur si simplu n-am cuvinte!  ... m-am abonat la topic si-o sa fiu cu ochii pe proiect!
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Hm tentant, astept continuarea ca la Game of Thrones
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Am facut comanda de sticla, mai jos lista de placi si cotele aferente. Voi folosi metoda cu laterale care "imbraca" cele 2 placi de fund pe toate cele 4 laturi, din 2 motive:
- suprafata de lipire intre placile de fund si cele verticale creste la 20 mm (vor fi 2 placi de fund de 10 mm fiecare), in loc de 12 mm - grosimea sticlei
- prefer ca greutatea placilor verticale (69 kg/buc foile mari de front/back, 16 kg/buc foile laterale) sa nu apese pe marginea placilor de fund
Voi lipi cu rost de 3 mm, silicon Dow Corning 881 negru.
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- 3500 x 650 - front - 12 mm ultraclara - 1 buc
- 3500 x 650 - spate - 12 mm clara - 1 buc
- 770 x 650 - laterale - 12 mm clara - 2 buc, una din placi se gaureste conform cote D=42
- 3470 x 770 - fund - 10 mm clara - 2 buc - se gaureste pentru treceri overflow conform cote D=54
- 620 x 200 - caseta overflow - 10 mm - 1 buc - se gaureste conform cote D=42
- 530 x 500 - caseta overflow - 10 mm - 1 buc - se gaureste conform cote D=42
- 3470 x 120 - intaritor longitudinal - 10 mm - 2 buc
- 770 x 120 - intaritor transversal - 10 mm - 5 buc
Cote gauri placi de fund:
Cote gaurire placa laterala:
Cote gaurire placi overflow:
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Daca se poate ne pui si niste preturi si locul de unde ai achizitionat sticla, multumesc
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@adiradu:
- nu o sa stea nimeni sa-ti verifice cotele alea, asa ca sper sa fi calculat bine cifrele.
- Eu as dubla si ranforsarile alea longitudinale de sus... chiar daca ai zis ca pui si "transversale".
In rest, n-am nimic de comentat.
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Buuun, ideea cu dublarea de intaritoare e buna  , ramane sa vad la furnizor daca mai poate face.
Furnizorul este Aquadec.
Preturile cu care iau sticla sunt:
- 372 lei/mp sticla UC de 12 mm
- 239 lei/mp sticla float de 12 mm
- 110 lei/mp sticla float de 10 mm
- 13 lei/ml cantuire la 12 mm
- 10 lei/ml cantuire la 10 mm
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adiradu wrote:- suprafata de lipire intre placile de fund si cele verticale creste la 20 mm (vor fi 2 placi de fund de 10 mm fiecare), in loc de 12 mm - grosimea sticlei
Pai daca mergi pe metoda "clasica" cu a doua foaie de fund mai scurta ai o suprafata de lipire de 22m (12mm cantul sticlei verticale si 10mm sticla de fund).
Eu as zice ca marele avantaj la metoda asta e ca o lipitura e orizontala si una verticala.
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adiradu wrote:- 239 lei/mp sticla float de 12 mm
Wow ce s-a scumpit sticla.
Eu am dat vreo 140 lei/mp, e drept ca a fost cu niste ani in urma.
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lukitza wrote:Pai daca mergi pe metoda "clasica" cu a doua foaie de fund mai scurta ai o suprafata de lipire de 22m (12mm cantul sticlei verticale si 10mm sticla de fund).
Eu as zice ca marele avantaj la metoda asta e ca o lipitura e orizontala si una verticala.
Da, asa este.
La bazine pana in 7-800 litri este recomandat sa faci lipiturile asa.
DAR bazinul de fata este foarte mare, e urias!... geamurile sunt foarte grele si apasa destul de tare pe sticla de fund.
Varianta aleasa de adiradu iti ofera "siguranta" ca fundul acvariului NU va crapa... indiferent daca stativul este perfect orizontal, sau nu!
La lipire, geamurile se vor "aseza" firesc, conform suprafetei formate de stativ, si vor ramane "pe pozitie".
Practic, chiar daca ai o mica neplaneitate a "mesei" (nu stiu cat de clar sunt in exprimare), geamurile laterale se vor sprijini direct pe stativ... in loc sa fie lipite pe geamul de fund si sa-l tensioneze.
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Da, asa e. La lungimea aia intr-adevar exista riscul ca nici foaia de sticla de pe fund sa nu fie perfect plana si atunci fiind apasata
de cea verticala e o problema.
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In plus. la cele scrise de koala si lukitza, adaug eu ca experienta bazinului vechi pe care l-am lipit dupa aceeasi metoda, imi confirma ca sunt sanse mari sa tina. Acel bazin a stat pe pozitie 4 ani si probabil ca ar fi rezistat inca mult timp asa. Mi-am dat seama de asta cand am taiat lipiturile de silicon ca sa-l scot de acolo pe bucati. Nu vreti sa stiti ce inseamna sa tai un Dow Corning dupa 4 ani...
Ideea e ca asezarea acelor foi de sticla de 3.5 m una peste alta, chiar si cu stratul de silicon aferent intre ele, poate creea concentratori de tensiune si forte neprevazute care ar putea duce la probleme mari (...si ude  ).
"Principiul" dupa care ma ghidez la lipirea acestui bazin e ca foile de sticla sa nu fie in contact una cu alta decat cel mult pe plan orizontal, prin intermediul celor 3 mm de silicon dintre ele si ca centrul de greutate al fiecarei foi de sticla sa nu cada pe alta foaie de sticla.
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"Nu vreti sa stiti ce inseamna sa tai un Dow Corning dupa 4 ani... "
Sa vezi cum este sa il cureti
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Cred ca a venit timpul sa-l botezi! Un numa potrivit ar fi The Mammoth
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Silviu Man wrote:Cred ca a venit timpul sa-l botezi! Un numa potrivit ar fi The Mammoth
No bun, atunci hai sa-l botezam, daca tot am aflat din ce va fi facut...
De azi incolo numele lui sa ramana " Shadows (The Mammoth)"
Multumesc Silviu de sugestie  , asta va fi mamutul din seria de umbre. El va avea si 2 frati ceva mai mici, ceva mai incolo, cand lucrurile se vor mai aseza....
Il rog pe seful de la butoane sa faca modificarea in titlul postului. Multumesc !
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Tocmai m-a anuntat furnizorul ca sticla jumbo ultraclara nu mai exista in Romania si nici nu va veni prea curand. La dimensiuni normale se poate rezolva dar la 3 metri jumate nici o sansa...
Am dat verde pe float normala, livrarea se va face undeva pe sfarsitul saptamanii viitoare.
Pana atunci ma ocup de stand si voi folosi suportul de la vechiul bazin. Dimensiunile lui sunt de 270 (L) x 80 (l) x 80 (h) [cm] si este confectionat din bara patrata de 40 x 40, grosime 2 [mm] . La acesta voi adauga in prelungire un "modul" de 80 x 80 x 80 [cm] care sa il duca la lungimea totala de 350 cm. Va fi acoperit cu PAL de 18 mm peste care voi pune polistiren extrudat.
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adiradu wrote:
Silviu Man wrote:Cred ca a venit timpul sa-l botezi! Un numa potrivit ar fi The Mammoth
No bun, atunci hai sa-l botezam, daca tot am aflat din ce va fi facut...
De azi incolo numele lui sa ramana " Shadows (The Mammoth)"
Multumesc Silviu de sugestie
Sa-l stapinesti sanatos si sa se faca ... mare!
Abia astept sa ajungi la faza "piatra asta sta bine aici sau mai bine o mut mai incolo?"
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Pai daca se pastreaza traditia bazinul ala nu va vedea pietre. Cel putin nu naturale.
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