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Salutari tuturor!
De ceva timp studiez si testez mai multe conditionere pentru apa blackwater asa ca m-am gandit sa fac o analiza detaliata pentru conditionerii folositi si care sunt pe piata. Acesti conditioneri se folosesc mai ales pt acvariile de tip biotop sau blackwater din zona America de Sud/ bazin Amazon.
Asa ca, atasez o analiza cu cei mai uzuali conditioneri blackwater de pe piata, unde am exemplificat dozajul necesar pt 200L de apa dar si pretul aferent pt 1ML de conditioner cat si pretul pentru dozajul la 200L de apa.
Primele locuri ca si raport pret/calitate/dozaj sunt Natural Humin - Discus food si Tropical Querex, dar Tropical Querex nu face apa asa colorata cum as dori eu.
Eu personal am folosit Natural Humin care este foarte ok....dar acum e greu de gasit in Romania si folosesc JBL Tropol si urmeaza sa testez Sera. De JBL Tropol sunt chiar multumit doar ca e putin pretul mare analizand dozajul.
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nu merge dounlodu/ nu ca ma intereseaza subiectu, faceam brousing. am incercat si io BW natur, ?i e cool.
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dinu79 wrote:nu merge dounlodu/ nu ca ma intereseaza subiectu, faceam brousing. am incercat si io BW natur, ?i e cool.
Trebuie sa mearga...nu se poate sa nu. Eventual sa ne ajute adminii daca nu....
Mie imi merge de exemplu.
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Acvariu 54L, Creveti crystal red: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TymTMhB75ms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti Blue dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2XfmX2GJVo
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Eu am reusit sa deschid spreadsheet-ul. Utile informatii.
Nu este destul de costisitor folosirea conditionerelor, mai ales in cazul unor acvarii mari, la care trebuie sa faci schimburi mari de apa(discus)? Nu este mai economic sa incerci sa prepari un extractfolosind ceea ce iti ofera natura(de exemplu frunze de stejar, conuri de arin etc.).
Daca esti atat de multumit de Natur humin ma bate gandul sa-l incerc si eu, desi nu am fost deloc impresionat de hrana lor pentru discus.
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Eu am incercat cu turba . Stau lîng? zona extractiv?.efectul a fost efectiv ,,tare,,.
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Este destul de coatisitor asa e....dar ce nu facem pt.pasiunea asta.
Am folosit de toate...turba in filtru, e f ok dar efectul trece destul de repede datorita filtrarii.
Am incercat si cu catappa, conuri arin dar pt acvarii mari trebuie sa foloseati f multe si devine costisitor...plus e mai mult de lucru. Frunze de stejar n am incercat inca.
Am mai folosit si ceai de rooibos, dar tot asa nu mi e la indemana sa tot fac ceai saptamanal. ..
Cel mai ok pt mine, dar poate pt altii nu, mi se par solutiile blackwater, cu toate ca e destul de costisitor....
Incearca linistit Natural Humin, daca gasesti la 500ml anunta ma si pe mine
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Acvariu 100L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3GrkX1Erms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti crystal red: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TymTMhB75ms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti Blue dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2XfmX2GJVo
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Fac un tanc de 100 l, 90 efectivi, 9 x 5 x 2.6 in decimal, pur natur.daca incerc, încerc turba ?i numai pt fertilizare.da, trece, îmi amintesc c? la turba neagra am dozat la 60 l cantitate fixa, efectul estetic a ?inut 3 zile, apoi , fiind anii 90, am schimbat apa.din p?cate, nu voi incerca conditioners, nu c? a? avea ceva cu alterizarea , dar e nou plantat ?i trebuie s? ?in sub observa?ie cre?terea ?i luminarea.
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Te rog eu mult incerca sa scri mai pe intelesul tuturor . Incerc sa citesc cam tot ce postezi dar neuroni mei ard unu cate unu la cate semne de întrebare sunt in postarile tale
PS: Admini sunt in vacanta de vara
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Samy wrote:dinu79
Te rog eu mult incerca sa scri mai pe intelesul tuturor . Incerc sa citesc cam tot ce postezi dar neuroni mei ard unu cate unu la cate semne de întrebare sunt in postarile tale
PS: Admini sunt in vacanta de vara
Diacriticele.scriu pe telefon, nu ?tiu de ce apar a?a, nu pot rezolva decit sa editez fara diacritice, cred.imi cer scuze.
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dinu79 wrote:
Samy wrote:dinu79
Te rog eu mult incerca sa scri mai pe intelesul tuturor . Incerc sa citesc cam tot ce postezi dar neuroni mei ard unu cate unu la cate semne de întrebare sunt in postarile tale
PS: Admini sunt in vacanta de vara
Diacriticele.scriu pe telefon, nu ?tiu de ce apar a?a, nu pot rezolva decit sa editez fara diacritice, cred.imi cer scuze.
Si eu scriu de pe telefon, cand scriu pe forum pun tastatura pe germana  . Si unde sunt greseli la cuvinte incerc sa le corectez . Germana nu are diactrice ca Romana.
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Sa nu par patriotard, basina patrioata, iubesc româna ca foneme ?i grafeme.o sa incerc sa elimin diacriticele prin trierea barii de spelling.
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alinutz80 wrote: Frunze de stejar n am incercat inca.
Am mai folosit si ceai de rooibos, dar tot asa nu mi e la indemana sa tot fac ceai saptamanal. ..
Prin 2013 am primit un pont de la Varol cu ceai de scoarta de stejar de la plafar. Killi pe care-i aveam atunci iubeau apa cu scoarta de stejar si aveam 8 acvarii.
Poti incerca si asa
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alinutz80 wrote: Frunze de stejar n am incercat inca.
Am mai folosit si ceai de rooibos, dar tot asa nu mi e la indemana sa tot fac ceai saptamanal. ..
Prin 2013 am primit un pont de la Varol cu ceai de scoarta de stejar de la plafar. Killi pe care-i aveam atunci iubeau apa cu scoarta de stejar si aveam 8 acvarii.
Poti incerca si asa
Noh mersi, de ceaiul asta nu am auzit...dar am sa caut si vedem
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Acvariu 450L Altum Rio Orinoco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEVND9qmtv4&t=26s
Acvariu 100L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3GrkX1Erms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti crystal red: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TymTMhB75ms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti Blue dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2XfmX2GJVo
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Am cumparat scoarta de stejar, dupa ce o testez va anunt cum se comporta...adica daca coloreaza apa cum trebuie.
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Acvariu 450L Altum Rio Orinoco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEVND9qmtv4&t=26s
Acvariu 100L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3GrkX1Erms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti crystal red: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TymTMhB75ms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti Blue dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2XfmX2GJVo
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Am actualizat putin lista. Atasez fisierul modificat putin.
Daca aveti si alte recomandari, va rog sa imi scrieti.
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Acvariu 100L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3GrkX1Erms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti crystal red: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TymTMhB75ms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti Blue dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2XfmX2GJVo
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Ai zis ca vei reveni cu pareri despre scoarta de stejar
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Am atasat fisierul in PDF si in Excel, ambele variante.
L-am pus si pe one drive, poate fi consultat aici: https://1drv.ms/x/s!Agb2-RET3MZW5CLIF_wjKC1UPxYy?e=eawmTw
Asa va ramane in mai multe locuri in caz ca se pierde pe undeva
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Acvariu 100L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3GrkX1Erms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti crystal red: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TymTMhB75ms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti Blue dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2XfmX2GJVo
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A folosit cineva conditionerul de la Blackwater Aquatics?
https://www.echipamenteacvarii.ro/BlackWater-Brightwell-substante-humice-acvarii
@alinutz80, consideri ca il poti adauga la lista?
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Nu am folosit!
Am sa il adaug clar la lista. Mersi de recomandare, chiar sunt curios cum e...
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Acvariu 100L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3GrkX1Erms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti crystal red: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TymTMhB75ms
Acvariu 54L, Creveti Blue dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2XfmX2GJVo
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