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Cum scie in litere la' titlu'....
Hai sa stabilim cum se poate face o testare a ciclarii cu bacterii din recipient comercial, comparativ cu metoda clasica:
Adica: avem replicat, un bazin de N ori, echivalent... (Substrat, filtru/miscare de apa si aditii "diverse")
Nu cred ca trebuie lemne si plante, deoarece devine subiectiva interpretarea, datorita faptului ca nu se pot' creea volume ori suprafete identice.
( Considerand ca: bacteriile din bidon ar putea avea un avantaj, ar trebui sa bagam' si ceva pesti la start in toate bazinele  )
Idei ma sunt.....
Va rog, continuati.
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Vezi ca avea Dragos un topic unde vroia sa incerce ceva similar, o testare a mediilor. Cred ca gasesti informatia care o cauti acolo.
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Ai nevoie de cateva galeti de 20l, acelasi nr de filtre burete, o pompa de aer si un loc calduros (25 grade sau mai mult). Bacterii la sticla de la Seachem mai trebuie comparate daca nu ai.
https://www.dedeman.ro/ro/galeata-pentru-zugravit-plastic-lumytools-lt06392-20-l/p/7011475
https://nevertebrate.ro/filtru-intern-burete-cu-greutate-ocean-free-bf-baby-2553
Recomand macar 3 galeti:
Intruna vei testa fara nicio aditie de bacterii.
In a doua folosesti aditia de bacterii din comert.
In a treia vei adauga o lungurita cu varf sol negru recoltat din gradina/natura, zona neierbicidata(si care nu s-a uscat de la recoltare) - sursa adevarata de bacterii autotrofe de la Mama Natura.
Hranesti zilnic galetile cu o cantitate identica de mancare, testezi pt amoniu, nitriti, nitrati etc. nu intru in detalii pe care le stii deja.
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Un sfat de la zugravul amator care zace in mine: sub nici o forma nu cumparati acele galeti.
Sunt facute din ceva plastic reciclat si put ingrozitor. Nici dupa 200 de spalari nu iese mirosul, si este un miros nenorocit, il simti cum ti se lipeste de nari si de haine.
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dan.pavelescu wrote:Un sfat de la zugravul amator care zace in mine: sub nici o forma nu cumparati acele galeti.
Sunt facute din ceva plastic reciclat si put ingrozitor. Nici dupa 200 de spalari nu iese mirosul, si este un miros nenorocit, il simti cum ti se lipeste de nari si de haine.
Ok. M-am uitat si eu dupa ce era mai ieftin.
Cauti la magazin unele care nu put atunci.
LE:
https://silio.ro/galeata-rotunda-universala-20l-maner-metalic-neagra-galeti-din-plastic-20l-galeata-pentru-curatenie-galeata-simpla-cu-maner-metalic-galeti-rotunde-galeata-pentru-uz-casnic
Aici scrie ca e din polipropilena, asta inseamna ca e sigura pt asemenea utilizare.
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Ideea mea era ca ar trebui macar 10 recipiente.
Filtrarea si miscarea apei se face cu bureti bolborositori.
As merge pe niste casolete transparente de 15-20L mai inalte pe verticala. (ar ajuta si buretii mai bine, cu o coloana inalta)
Ceva gen: https://hobbychef.ro/cutie-alimente-cu-capac-11l?gclid=CjwKCAiA9aKQBhBREiwAyGP5lTA-ipvIbG0XE1sMg4ZxFwuWsYBtLeG5b64y5uNXeVxZDmchM1-xvBoCcAcQAvD_BwE
Sunt unele de 18L dar nu gasesc un link. (am folosit dalea' la pesti in carantina..... Si producatorul este aproape de mine.)
Vreau transparente totusi....
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Ok. Recipientele transparente te vor ajuta sa evaluezi mai usor claritatea apei. Daca banii nu sunt o problema, de ce nu?
10buc suna foarte ambitios, marturisesc ca o asemenea testare chiar ma va tine in suspans
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Pai, trebuie sa fie cate doua conditionate la fel. (sa nu existe, cacaturile de gen: ciudat ori "cine stie cum")
Ce ma intereseaza ar fi sugestii de ce si cum bag in ele. (aditii comerciale)
Ce stiu sigur ca vreau sa testez:
1. Aditii din buretele de filtru.
2. Nimic.  (deja, 4 recipiente)
In rest, astept variante de solutii magice pentru ciclare. (comerciale)
La partea cu bani... cat dracu o sa coste? nescaiva sute.... (raman inca satul si bogat)
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Oare un compresor din asta sau asemanator tine cele 10 bazine de test?
https://abc-zoo.ro/1529-compresor-aco-003-3900l-ora-.html
EverSad wrote:
La partea cu bani... cat dracu o sa coste? nescaiva sute.... (raman inca satul si bogat)
Daca le judecam bine si in functie de cati ne cuplam la experiment, chiar si pana intr-o suta de caciula
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Eu am spus ca voi contribui si eu cu ceva malai. Deci astept in privat protagonistu sa îmi dea datele
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Nu stiu cu compresorul.... am unul de 300l/h (tetra) si inca unul de rezerva la bazinul cu monstrii.
La cum iese' bulbucile' pe doua pietre mari, as aprecia ca 300l/h, ar duce si 5 recipiente < de 20L cu bolborositori.
Acum, ar mai fi si varianta achizitiei unei pompe mai mari ca poate o vrea cineva (pentru el) dupa ce se termina distractia.
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Decat flamand si sarac, mai bine satul si bogat.
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Decat flamand si sarac, mai bine satul si bogat.
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Pune-i la mine in cont si mergi pe incredere
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Revenind: ca tot so' pus problema de aer, hai sa vad daca se face treaba cu 10 recipiente intai.
Deja 4 sunt destinate...... Restul ar putea face obiectul experimentelor cu 3 solutii "la bidon".
Sunt suficiente doar trei? Apare ceva relevant de aici?
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Decat flamand si sarac, mai bine satul si bogat.
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dan.pavelescu wrote:Pune-i la mine in cont si mergi pe incredere
Scrie contu .(vezi sa nu ui?i pinu)
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Sa faca mai bine poza la card (fata/verso)  si va fi anuntat daca mai este sponsor.......
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EverSad wrote:Sa faca mai bine poza la card (fata/verso)  si va fi anuntat daca mai este sponsor.......
Îl lasam sa mai vanda un bazin
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Si daca ia cash? (esti sigur ca merita asteptarea? )
Se solicita acum pozele la card. Altfel, statutul de membru' este revocat. (asa se face)
Conform regulii: nu lasa pe maine ce poti ciordi' azi. (trimite la altu' pozele, si ne lasa flamanzi)
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Decat flamand si sarac, mai bine satul si bogat.
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Ce liniste so' facut.... (nu mai poti face un carding' cinstit, cu oameni de incredere...)
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Decat flamand si sarac, mai bine satul si bogat.
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