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Corect shubi
Ce am vazut la mine este ca pompa de 1.5L/h (36L/zi), daca merge nonstop - potentialul redox din reactor sta pe la 100mV.
Mi s-a intamplat cand am uitat sa infig pompa in controller si am lasat-o in priza normala, si ma intrebam de ce nu se cicleaza reactorul dupa o saptamana de mers  - potentialul statea fix. Pana la urma am descoperit.
Presupun ca la un volum urias de media, un debit (36L/zi) care la mine transforma reactorul in aerob ... acelasi debit este considerat mic pentru un reactor foarte mare.
La reactorul pe care l-am avut prima data de la Aqua Medic, cu prafuri de carbon si deniballs, Aqua Medic ofera un robinet care sa reduca debitul de apa, incat sa-l ai la picatura (dar reactorul e mic, cred ca 1.5 / 2L de apa maxim incap). Robinetul acela insa este imprecis, se murdareste, nu poti sa tii niciodata debitul constant cu el, si foarte usor poti sa o dai in 'rotten eggs smell' daca debitul prin el este mic. Deci chiar daca e un debit constant (pic, pic, pic) tot trebuie cumva masurat potentialul REDOX.
Totusi, acum ca zici de un volum urias, cred ca e de fapt un echilibru intre debit si volum. Un debit mic la un volum mic de media -> rotten eggs, un debit mare la un volum mare -> tot trebuie sa fii atent ...
Daca la tine merge inseamna ca nu s-a dus spre -300mV niciodata, dar ar fi interesant de stiut pe unde este
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Atat timp cat el functioneaza nici nu ma intereseaza unde este, prefer sa-mi ocup timpul liber cu alte chestiuni mult mai placute, sa ma joc cu aia micii de ex., sa-i scot in parc
Imi place la nebunie acvaristica de recif, este hobby-ul meu de suflet dar nu vreau sa-mi petrec viata masurand redoxuri si facand schimburi de apa in timpul liber care si asa-i destul de limitat.
Baieti, o petrecere ca-ntre alcoolici cand dezvoltam ?
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Shubi wrote:
Baieti, o petrecere ca-ntre alcoolici cand dezvoltam ?
Probabil,cea mai fiabila varianta,sa o facem online,fiecare in fata acvariului  )
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Shubi wrote:... Baieti, o petrecere ca-ntre alcoolici cand dezvoltam ?
Sa nu te-aud!
Cat m-am rugat de tine, impreuna cu nentoo kiru, asta vara... erai la doar 100 de km, iti aranjasem cazare... te prezentam tuturor carciumarilor din zona. "Om" te faceam!
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Ce sa zic, nevasta comoda.
Poate organizam la vara ceva impreuna
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pe 12 septembrie, koala wrote:... vreau si eu niste Asterine si niste brittle stars.
Bah, chiar n-are nimeni oratanii d-astea?
Le platesc, da-le 'reakului...
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viulian wrote:....
Ce am vazut la mine este ca pompa de 1.5L/h (36L/zi), daca merge nonstop - potentialul redox din reactor sta pe la 100mV.
Mi s-a intamplat cand am uitat sa infig pompa in controller si am lasat-o in priza normala, si ma intrebam de ce nu se cicleaza reactorul dupa o saptamana de mers  - potentialul statea fix. .......Presupun ca la un volum urias de media, un debit (36L/zi) care la mine transforma reactorul in aerob ... acelasi debit este considerat mic pentru un reactor foarte mare.
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Exact asta este ideea! Ca sa nu colmateze ai nevoie de un debit adecvat. Deci reactorul descris de tine la 36l/zi este aerob, dar nu colmateaza. Daca insa iesirea din reactorul tau o cuplezi la alte doua reactoare identice (recipiente cu suprafata identica), ai prin ele un debit de 1/2, fata de primul. Prin trei, debitul este de 1/3 si tot asa. Primul reactor, datorita debitului, nu colmateaza dar retine particulele in suspensie, si le prelucreaza, adica le descompune, aerob, consumind oxigenul din apa, urmatoarele insa pot functiona anaerob, cu risc mic de colmatare, in functie de reducerea debitului initial.
Variind debitul de trecere prin primul reactor si adaugind o sursa de carbon cu eliberare lenta (dar asta este un punct despre care il las pe shubi sa povesteasca) poti controla fie rata de denitrificare a reactorului, fie productia de bacterii pe care ti le poate furniza acest reactor.
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koala wrote:
pe 12 septembrie, koala wrote:... vreau si eu niste Asterine si niste brittle stars.
Bah, chiar n-are nimeni oratanii d-astea?
Le platesc, da-le 'reakului... 
Am eu, domnule, in ultra-nano-ul meu.
Dar ma gandesc ca ai nevoie de o mana buna, nu de 5 - 10 bucati... de-aia n-am zis nimic.
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Radule, cate sunt, alea sunt... la calu' de dar, nu facem control stomatologic.
Sa fie primite!
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Conu' alber a "daruit masa" cu o mana de Asterine... sa traiasca fericite si sa faca multi copii!
Merci frumos!
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HBOT wrote:
Variind debitul de trecere prin primul reactor si adaugind o sursa de carbon cu eliberare lenta (dar asta este un punct despre care il las pe shubi sa povesteasca) poti controla fie rata de denitrificare a reactorului, fie productia de bacterii pe care ti le poate furniza acest reactor.
Da, un punct dureros.
Cu totii stim ce se intampla cu sursele astea de carbon.
Dupa starea de agregare sunt lichide si solide, cele lichide trebuiesc adaugate injectat (seringa ori pompa de dozare) iar cele solide trebuiesc invartite de le ia ameteala, altfel se fac muci, lipesc, etc.
Exista totusi 2 variante pertinente alcoolicilor lenesi (il aveti pe Koala si subsemnatul drept exemplu  )
1. pungile osmotice - elibereaza lichidul treptat in apa in baza principiului osmozei, avem aici pungile Deltec )
2. carbon solid cu eliberare lenta, am gasit cu ajutrul lui HBOT dupa lungi cautari acest produs chiar in curtea JBL sub denumirea "JBL BIONITRATE EX" iar producatorul spune asa:
"JBL BioNitratEx in saltwater: In rare cases, the bacterial nutrient, which is included in the JBL BioNitratEx substrate, can be eluted. This causes a bacterial cloudiness in the saltwater. The activated carbon catches the eluted carbons (the food source for the bacteria) and prevents a possible bacterial cloudiness in the water "
Dar la noi se schimba problema pentru ca este sursa perfecta de carbon intr-un filtru cu recilculare alimentat la picatura, bacteriile vor consuma o cantitate direct proportionala cu cantitatea de nitrat, "peletele" fiind inerte si fara a se face muci. Initial acestea se comercializeaza in saculeti fara sa fie necesara miscarea lor, nu sunt lipicioase.
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Inteleg ca nici macar nu mai tre' sa stau cu mana pe siringa de NOPOX?... asta, DA veste!
Tre' sa dau si-un vin, pe langa galeata de aripioare...
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Tre sa dai mai multe ca inca n-am terminat
Ai ceva in mess
Domnule, aici se lucreaza, cu berea-n fata....dar se lucreaza
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Si-a venit marfa... sa te tii d-acu', calitate la apa din acvarii.
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Super.Spor la treaba!!
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Ai desfacut cutia de nopox, nu cumva ti-or bagat aia o juma de vodca ?
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Asa sunt eu, prevazator  ...
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Aia-i buna sa bagi nasu-n ea dimineata. Arunci cafeaua pe geam....
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- M-am lipit de 2 stele d-alea de nisip (Astropecten sp.)... cam 7-8 cm.
- Ale naibii, stau incalecate  ... le-am despartit, punandu-le in colturi diferite ale bazinului. Plm, s-au regasit si si-au reluat perversiunile!
- Se pozitioneaza una peste alta (cea de deasupra este mereu aceeasi  ), cu picioarele "intrepatrunse"... daca te uiti de sus, pare o stea cu 10 picioare.
Ceva de genul asta, ba chiar si culorile sunt aceleasi (una gri, alta gri cu dungi):
- Din cate stiu, stelele elibereaza sperma si oua in masa apei... plm, asta o fi preludiul lor?
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Vezi tu cand ajungi acasa daca o sa mai vezi pestii de albeata
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