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salutare,
se dau datele problemei:
1 bucata lampa blau aquaristic plus un bec soclu G12 aceiasi marca de 70w/12000k care functioneaza perfect in lampa !
1 bucata bec aceiasi marca 70w/6500k plus alt bec philips avand aceleasi date tehnice ca cel blau (amandoua noi !!!).
* se schimba becul blau de 70w/12000k cu celalat bec blau 70w/6500k > incepe sa fileze (la propriu) si dupa 10 sec se stinge > facand apoi acelasi lucru la un interval de 5 min
* se trece la becul philips de 70w/5000k, se moteaza pe lampa > acesta fileaza la fel > dar din pacate se si arde definitiv si irevocabil !
precizez ca:
- lampa are balastul original > blau > electronic
- lampa este second si a fost testata cu becul initial > cel de 70w/12000k si a functionat perfect timp de aproximativ 6 ore
- iar la primul bec testat > baietii de la reef au fost atat de amabili si m-au chemat cu lampa la ei > unde am pus alt balast si am avut acelasi efect > filarea si stingerea becului nou
- tot la reef au pus un bec de 150w > care paradoxal a mers bine-mersi
- in datele tehnice > se precizeaza ca balastul suporta 2 alternative de bec > 70w si 150w !
va rog  , cine are idee ce se intampla ?? deja imi vine sa arunc totul...
multumesc anticipat
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probabil ca undeva sa nu fie o frecventa buna....sau o rezistenta...
sau intensitatea sa nu fie aceeasi..
citeste atent...specificatiile tehnice...de pe fiecare componenta...
si calculeaza....si vezi daca iti dau ok...
un amper in plus...poate sa bulverseze totul...
iar faptul ca fileaza..
probabil frecventa.......
diferenta dintre cei 12.000 k si cei 5000k respectiv 6500k.... cred ca e ceea ce face diferenta...
probabil ca a fost pus cu un scop psobilitatea de 70/150 w
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dute cu ea la un electrician si vezi ce si cum...
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luci92050 wrote:diferenta dintre cei 12.000 k si cei 5000k respectiv 6500k.... cred ca e ceea ce face diferenta...
probabil ca a fost pus cu un scop psobilitatea de 70/150 w
balastul nu are posibilitatea de alegere > pur si simplu functioneaza in cele 2 plaje
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atunci nu am idee...cel mai bine du-o la un electrician....(cum a spus si cineva mai sus)
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O problema des intilnita si cunoscuta foarte bine de importator .
Balastul e de vina  . N-ai alta solutie decit inlocuirea lui .
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LaBocaDellaVerita wrote:O problema des intilnita si cunoscuta foarte bine de importator .
Balastul e de vina  . N-ai alta solutie decit inlocuirea lui .
serios ? de unde stii ?
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 Sa-i spunem din experienta
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LaBocaDellaVerita wrote:  Sa-i spunem din experienta
pai te rog > impartaseste si cu mine faza > macar sa nu mor nelamurit > ca sunt in pragul nebuniei !
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luci wrote:diferenta dintre cei 12.000 k si cei 5000k respectiv 6500k.... cred ca e ceea ce face diferenta...
Aceea e temperatura de culoare a tubului/becului. Nu are nici in clin nici in maneca cu functionarea lui....
Despre celelalte sugestii, nu mai zic nimic...
Parerea mea: ori becul initial testat este defapt de 150 W, si montand becurile de 70 W se ard, ori balastul a functionat in prima faza OK, iar pe parcurs a intervenit un defect care il face sa se manifeste asa.
Ai incercat sa montezi inapoi becul de 70 W 12000K sa vezi daca cu acesta functioneaza ok?
Ia uite aici. Nu vad nicaieri sa se specifice nici un bec cu putere data de 70 W...
Eventual o poza clara cu specificatiile inscrise pe balast poate ar ajuta in depistarea problemei.
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pai...am repus la test becul de 70W/12000k chiar azi > a mers 3 ore fara intrerupere !
din pacate balastul si lampa le am la munca  abia luni pot atasa o poza
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Ar fi bine cateva poze cu inscriptiile de pe balast cat si de pe becuri. Asta ca sa fie mai multe detalii in rezolvarea problemei.
Daca zici ca ai montat inapoi becul de 70 W / 12000K si functioneaza OK, atunci nu cred sa fie balastul de vina. Mai de graba becurile incompatibile.
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m_3 wrote:
Aceea e temperatura de culoare a tubului/becului. Nu are nici in clin nici in maneca cu functionarea lui....
Despre celelalte sugestii, nu mai zic nimic...
nu-s expert...am zis nu am dat cu parul...
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Stai linistit. Nu am vrut sa sune asa. Era doar o corectare. Nimeni nu s-a nascut invatat si nu le poate sti pe toate.
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ok...
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" in datele tehnice > se precizeaza ca balastul suporta 2 alternative de bec > 70w si 150w ! "
Nu cumva zice ca poti pune 2 de 70w sau unul de 150?
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uite si aici zic "baietii" ca merge 70/150w
si lampa (cum am spus si in descriere) a venit si merge perfect cu becul 70w/12000k...
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salutare,
problema rezolvata !
multumiri > celor care mi-au explicat cum sta treaba.
rog inchidere thread !!
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Pai nu ne zici si noua ce avea?
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