silvia wrote:sa imi dau seama ce am luat

select * from longnames where completename like '%hypophthalmus%'
TSN                    COMPLETENAME                                                                                                                                                         
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639954                 Pangasius hypophthalmus                                                                                                                                              
680725                 Cathorops hypophthalmus                                                                                                                                              
681920                 Ompok hypophthalmus                                                                                                                                                  
689610                 Parachela hypophthalmus

SELECT * FROM taxonomic_units WHERE TSN=639954

TSN                    UNIT_IND1 UNIT_NAME1                          UNIT_IND2 UNIT_NAME2                          UNIT_IND3 UNIT_NAME3                          UNIT_IND4 UNIT_NAME4                          UNNAMED_TAXON_IND NAME_USAGE   UNACCEPT_REASON                                    CREDIBILITY_RTNG                         COMPLETENESS_RTNG CURRENCY_RATING PHYLO_SORT_SEQ         INITIAL_TIME_STAMP        PARENT_TSN             TAXON_AUTHOR_ID        HYBRID_AUTHOR_ID       KINGDOM_ID             RANK_ID                UPDATE_DATE               UNCERTAIN_PRNT_IND 
---------------------- --------- ----------------------------------- --------- ----------------------------------- --------- ----------------------------------- --------- ----------------------------------- ----------------- ------------ -------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- ----------------- --------------- ---------------------- ------------------------- ---------------------- ---------------------- ---------------------- ---------------------- ---------------------- ------------------------- ------------------ 
639954                           Pangasius                                     hypophthalmus                                                                                                                   N                 valid                                                           TWG standards met                                                          0                      15-SEP-04                 164092                 89008                  0                      5                      220                    11-JUL-05                 No                 


SELECT * FROM strippedauthor WHERE taxon_author_id=89008
TAXON_AUTHOR_ID        SHORTAUTHOR                                                                                          
---------------------- -----------------------------------
89008                  [b]Sauvage 1878[/b]  

SELECT TSN, UNIT_NAME1 FROM taxonomic_units WHERE TSN=164092
164092                           Pangasius

 rank_id=180 = 'GENUS'

alef0 wrote:Acu' ce sa zic !? Nu pricep de ce chiar cei de pe ITIS, in Catalogue of life: 2008 Annual checklist, recunosc ca fiind valid (accepted name) Pangasianodon hypophthalmus (Sauvage, 1878), citand ca sursa tot FishBase.

ITIS Signs Agreement with Species 2000 and the Global Biodiversity Information Facility to Build Catalog of Life

mosu wrote:...sa astepte o reteta de gatit ...

Dear Marian Simpetru,

Thanks for your email. For background information on ITIS and on what
may be found therein please see:
http://www.itis.gov/itis_primer.html
http://www.itis.gov/glossary.html

The species in question is currently listed as Pangasius hypophthalmus
(Sauvage, 1878) (TSN 639954) in ITIS (originally described as
Helicophagus hypophthalmus Sauvage 1878), and if you go to the page you
will see the sources that were cited for it:
http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_
value=639954

The primary source ITIS cites is a 2005 version of Bill Eschmeyer's
"Catalog of Fishes" (which is what ITIS follows for virtually all fish
names), the current version of which is here:
http://research.calacademy.org/research/ichthyology/catalog/fishcatmain.
asp

Bill has since then followed a 2007 work that treats the species as
valid in a different combination, like so:
Pangasianodon hypophthalmus (Sauvage 1878). When ITIS next updates this
group it will reflect whatever the current treatment Bill gives for it.
Updates are generally made in taxonomic "chunks" of reasonable size (a
family, an order, etc.), and for fishes we update such groups
exhaustively.

FishBase is related in that they generally follow the Catalog of Fishes,
except where they choose to do otherwise. I do not know what their
update policies are, but as of a few years ago I understood that ITIS
and FishBase were very compatible in their handling of almost all fish
names, since they were largely based on the same source.

The ITIS and Species 2000 "Catalogue of Life" project (CoL) is a
confederation of separate databases (vs. a centralized database like
ITIS), and ITIS freely provides whatever data CoL would like to use. The
current model of CoL is to almost exclusively use single "Global Species
Databases" (GSDs) for whatever groups have them, and to use ITIS for
other groups. In the case of fishes, CoL uses FishBase's data. CoL
produces an Annual Catalogue in which new GSDs are added and existing
data for GSDs are updated from the source database where feasible (not
necessarily annually).

I hope this helps some. Thanks for your interest in ITIS!

Regards,
Dave

David Nicolson
Data Development Coordinator, Integrated Taxonomic Information System
Biologist, USGS/NBII
.....
http://www.itis.gov/
http://www.cbif.gc.ca/itis/
"Nihil sumas necesse est..."

mosu wrote:...poate gasesti in lucrarica aia ceva de dimorfism...

silvia wrote: am inteles care e problema !!! am luat un pestic care se va face mare de tot ! o sa vad eu ce fac cu el pana mai creste , oricum imi e mila de el sa il dau. Nu o sa mai iau inca unul , mai ales ca nu m-ati lamurit de loc cu faza care e baiat si care e fetita si sa nu ma pomenesc cu 2 monstruleti in acvariu !
o sa il tin atata timp cat pot si mai vedem dupa aceea ; multumesc de "sfaturi" !! ( asta e bafta incepatorului )