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Intrucat la acvariul meu Aquael Econoline 60 (45 l util) am "din fabrica" un neon de 11W care lumineaza doar in centru, m-am gandit sa il schimb cu ceva mai bun. Dati-mi si mie un sfat. Ce ar trebui sa montez in loc?
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ce dimensiune ai disponibila in capac,nu cunosc prea bine tipul astA de bazin,sunt metode,dar in fct. de spatiul disponibil.
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60x30 e dimensiunea capacului. Ca sa iti faci o imagine exacta, iata: http://www.happypets.ro/acvariu-aquael-econoline-60-p-680.html
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Tuburi de 15W T8 cu lungime de 438mm,poti bricola sa intre lejer 2 tuburi,mai scumpe de la Hagen de exemplu un FloraGlo+AquaGlo sau mai ieftine de la Osram:tot 15W Fluora sau 830+un 865,Variante sunt multe dar in principiu tuburi de 15W cool daylight+warm white
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Imi poti spune cu aproximatie cam cat ma costa? Nu de alta, dar am un buget al naibii de limitat  Asa ceva e bun? http://marbotrade.bizoo.ro/vanzare/138510/Neon-Osram-L-15-W--77-Fluora---T8
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Mergi pe floura si 865. E o combinatie ce la multi a mers, inclusiv la mine!
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Cu aproximatie 50-60 lei,cu tot cu aprinderi electronice dealea ieftine
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Ok, uite care e faza: sunt antitalent total in ceea ce priveste tehnica, asa ca te rog arata-mi prin poze si scrie-mi tot ce-mi trebuie. Te rog!  Ma duc sambata sa cumpar tot ce-mi trebuie. In afara de neoane ce anume tre sa mai cumpar? Startere? Si alea laterale in care se prinde neonul? Zi-mi cum se numesc si eventual ilustreaza-mi prin poze.
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drosere electronice universale ,le spune la aprinderile alea electonice,iar la capatul tuburilor ,le spune dulii pentru tub neon t8(cam 4 ron perecchea),droserele made in china pana-n 10 ron \buc.
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"Ok, uite care e faza: sunt antitalent total in ceea ce priveste tehnica"
Atunci mai bine lasi pe altcineva sa execute lucrarea
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adriancalotescu wrote:"Ok, uite care e faza: sunt antitalent total in ceea ce priveste tehnica"
Atunci mai bine lasi pe altcineva sa execute lucrarea 
Bine punctat!
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Asta in mod sigur. Am un bun prieten care se pricepe dar voaim sa stiu ce sa cumpar.
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Azi e ziua in care trec la fapte. Mai am totusi o intrebare: Care e raportul optim W / L ?
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Intrebare mult mai complexa decat pare.
Cantitatea de lumina se coreleaza si depinde de:
1. speciile de plante din acvariu
2. inaltimea acvariului (inaltimea coloanei de apa)
3. masa de plante
4. fertilizarea (micro + macro)
In afara de asta, mai e si mica problema cu msurarea cantitatii de lumina in W/ litru... e cam total gresita abordarea. Din pacate, e cea mai la indemana, multi producatori nespecificand pe tuburi lumenii dati de acestea.
Sa spunem ca mergem pe ideea de W / l si sa consideram buna abordarea asta. In cazul asta, in functie de punctele enumerate mai sus, poti sa mergi de la 0.3 W/l pana la 1 - 1.2 W/l.
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Care e raportul optim W / L ?
Este o problema mult prea complexa ca sa poti primi un raspuns. Raportul W/L este conditionat de o serie de factori, printre care se afla fertilizarea, adaosul de CO2, gradul de plantare, speciile plantelor s.a.m.d. Pentru bazinul tau ar trebui sa ai 2 sau 3 tuburi. Sfatul meu: citeste!
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Pai am optat pentru sfaturile primite mai sus, astfel ca 2 tuburi de 15W inseamna 30 W / 45 L = 0,66 W / L. Plante foarte pretentioase nu voi creste. Totusi sper ca nu sunt nici prea puternice, cauzand astfel arderea plantelor.
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Arderea plantelor?!
Stai linistit. Lumina pe care o ai tu acolo nu e deloc de intensitate mica. Ba chiar putin peste mediu. Da' plantele nu o sa se "arda" in niciun caz.
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mai rau ard in lipsa luminii.
nici nu se pune problema. Unii au capace bricolate cu neoane unul langa altul. Se poate ajunge la 2W/L
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Ok am un neon cu lumina calda si unul cool day light. Are importanta cum le asez? Care trebuie sa fie in fata?
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teoretic vorbind ordinea din fata-spate ar fi:lumina rece,lumina calda,in linii mari lumina cu spectru albastru (rece)faforizeaza cresterea\dezvoltarea mai mult in coroana,indeseste,iar lunina calda(spectru rosu) cresterea in inaltime.
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